MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 27th 2014
Voting Members in Attendance: Barbara Kohn, Chris Spitz, Jennifer Malaret, Donna Vaccarino, Jim Rea, Paul Glasgall, Jack Allen, Janet Turner, Stuart Muller, Sue Kohl, Dick Wulliger, Andrew Wolfberg and Gil Dembo.
Voting Alternates: Amy Kalp, Marc Lasky, Quentin Fleming, Brenda Theveny and Carol Bruch.
Non-voting Advisors and Alternates: John Glasgow, Bruce Schwartz, Jennifer Zeller and Richard Cohen. (Kelly Comras was present but left prior to any topic where a vote was at issue.)
Start of Business Meeting
1. Reading of Community Council’s Mission. Dick Wulliger read the Mission Statement.
2. Call to Order and Introduction of the Board and Audience. Barbara Kohn called the meeting to order at 7:04 pm. Introduction of the Board and audience.
3. Certification of Quorum. The President certified that a quorum was present at 7:07 pm.
4. Adoption of Minutes. The President deemed the February 13, 2014 minutes adopted as corrected. Next Meetings: March 13, 2014 and March 27, 2014. Barbara stated that the issue of the Bylaws would be discussed at the March 13, 2014 meeting.
5. Consideration of Agenda. The President considered the agenda.
6. Treasurer’s Report — No report given.
7. Reports, Announcements and Concerns.
7.1. Announcements from the President, Barbara Kohn.
7.1.1. PPCC Membership/Citizen of the Year Flyer – Look for it in Your Mailbox!!!! Barbara reported that more than 12,000 mailings went out. Copies were made available to those in attendance.
7.1.2. 2014 Citizen of the Year and Gala Dinner Event, Thursday, April 24, 2014 at the Riviera Country Club. The Citizen of the Year Award will be given to Rob Weber, President of the Pacific Palisades Parade Association (“PAPA”) 4th of July Parade & Concert 2013. In addition, a special honor, “Pride of the Palisades” will be given to Bill Bruns. Gala Dinner Committee Chair Janet Turner; Program Chair Jim Rea.
7.1.3. PPCC’s Sparkplug Awards. See Criteria Below. Nominations remain open until February 28, 2014. Email nominations to email@example.com. 2014 Sparkplug Committee Members: Chris Spitz (Chair), Ted Mackie (Executive Board Representative), Andrew Wolfberg (Area Representative), Joyce Brunelle (Organizational Representative), and Andy Frew (Organizational Representative).
7.1.4. Mayor’s Budget Day, Wednesday February 26, 2014, 6:00 pm – 8:00 pm, Mar Vista Recreation Center, 11430 Woodbine Street, Los Angeles. Mayor Garcetti, Councilmember Mike Bonin and Councilmember Paul Koretz attending. Janet Turner reported that the event was very successful. The Mayor reported that the pension budget continues to be an issue for the City. The Mayor spoke for a while and the City is very proud that safety has improved to the highest level since 1947. Job increases at Silicon Beach have been very helpful to the City’s revenue base.
7.1.5. Caruso Affiliated invites input on Village Properties, Wednesday February 26, 2014, Mercer Hall, 6 PM Palisades Charter High School, 15777 Bowdoin Street, Pacific Palisades, CA. Caruso Affiliated representatives are tentatively scheduled to attend the PPCC Board meeting on February 27, 2014. Kelly Comras reported that approximately 500 persons attended and that the event was very positive in spirit. Audience feedback was given on architectural style and restaurants. For over one and a half hours, there was question and feedback interchange was engaged in between the residents and Caruso Affiliated. Other board members spoke with positive sentiments.
7.1.6. Council District 11 is seeking qualified applicants to fill positions on the Pacific Palisades Commercial Village and Neighborhoods Design Review Board (DRB). See information below. Barbara stated that there is approximately one week to nominate yourself or another qualified individual.
7.2. Announcements from Governmental Representatives.
7.2.1. Los Angeles Police Department (“LAPD”) – SLO Officer Moore — None in attendance.
In lieu of SLO Moore, Richard Cohen reported that at the CPAB meeting last week (1) policing and the homeless was the sole topic. The information given was not positive due, in part, to the Consent Decree that the LAPD operates under. The homeless persons under various court decisions are entitled to be in public places and can sleep on the sidewalk between 9 PM and 6 AM. The standard for blocking the sidewalk is that a person can navigate around them, else LAPD will not intervene. The homeless are entitled to urinate and defecate in public such that this is a human need which cannot be denied in the situation that public restrooms are not available. Jennifer Malaret reminded the board about discussions last year involving a state assembly bill that died wherein City parks would need to make their public restrooms available 24/7. Patrick Hart commented that homeless are sleeping in Temescal Canyon despite having beds available elsewhere in the City. Richard stated that in the Palisades there are beach restrooms and park restrooms available at certain hours such that LAPD can issues citations under certain circumstances. Donna asked about programs in Beverly Hills. Richard stated that the key element is what happens to a homeless person’s stuff. The City of LA does not have resources to bag, tag, store and safeguard the belongings of homeless persons whereas Beverly Hills has greater resources.
7.2.2. Los Angeles City Council, District 11; Councilmember Mike Bonin’s Office. www.11thdistrict.com — None in attendance.
7.2.3. Office of Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, Daniel Tamm Westside Area Representative, Mayor’s Interfaith Liaison (*attending on the 4th Thursday of each month). Mayor’s Website: www.lamayor.org. City Services webpage: http://www.lacity.org/CitywideServices/index.htm. MyLA Phone App: http://www.lacity.org//MyLA311/index.htm — None in attendance.
7.2.4. California State Assembly, Office of Assemblymember Richard Bloom’s Office. http://www.asmdc.org/bloom — None in attendance.
7.3. Announcements from Board Members and Advisors.
7.3.1. Area Representatives – Report on Behalf of Areas.
(1) Paul Glasgall reported that there has been a response by Verizon to requests to paint the cell towers and cabinets. There are still two towers in contention and Paul estimates that the towers will be operational in a month or so. There will be a grand opening for the Palisades Drive Shopping Center. (2) Andrew Wolfberg reported that the Northern Trust Open has come and gone and he asked that if any residents had problems this year to please contact him and Andrew will work on further changes designed to mitigate impacts to neighbors. (3) Stuart Muller reported that he obtained a commitment from the post office building owner to have the abandoned phone booth outside of Citibank removed.
7.3.2. Organizational Representatives – Report on Behalf of Organizations.
(1) Gil Dembo circulated a report regarding the development of adjacent retaining walls in Potrero Canyon that do not require aesthetic ‘skirting.’ Gil is concerned with the impact on views from the canyon and that the City and LADBS strictly enforce the rules set by the City and the Coastal Commission regarding development of ‘rim’ properties. Chris Spitz reminded the board that the LUC and the Council had discussed this issue for years. As a result, in part, there was a ZI Bulletin issued and there has been constant interaction with private property owners and the LUC regarding individual developments. Chris stated that there have been ongoing efforts and discussions to protect the view shed. Gil urged the City to review the requirements to make them more stringent. Jack Allen suggested that there remains a need for a Hillside Retaining Wall Ordinance; Barbara reminded the Board that this issue has been discussed for years.
7.3.3. PPCC Advisors — None in attendance.
8. Reports from Committees.
8.1. Land Use Committee (“LUC”) – Chris Spitz, Chair.
9. Old Business.
9.1. Notice of March 7, 2014 Board of Public Works Hearing, 9:30 am at City Hall, 200 North Spring Street, Room 350, Los Angeles, CA, 90012.
Motion submitted by Patrick Hart regarding appeal from the City Engineer’s approval of Coastal Development Permit 13-02 for Temescal Canyon Park Storm Water Best Management Practices Project, Phase II (W.O. EW40029D). Please refer to discussion and minutes from the January 23, 2014 PPCC Board meeting.
Presentation: Patrick asked for two board members to present and second a motion that would endorse his appeal referenced above. Patrick reported that late this afternoon he received a reply from City Engineers in response to his points and comments from the last PPCC meeting. Patrick is also concerned about the lack of monitoring of the facility that will be built next to adjacent homeless campfires. The last component of the objection is that there is Phase 2 will measure no metric the City has to measure how much pollutant and how much the Santa Monica Bay will be cleaned.
Discussion: Carol Bruch asked about the legal basis for pumping requirements. Andrew Wolfberg stated that the existence of houses that drain into the canyon without pumps create a flow that the City is trying to deal with. Richard Cohen asked why we are talking about a single family residence when the issue before us is to oppose Phase 2 of a project after Phase 1 has already been built wherein Phase 1 captures a tremendous amount of public water for treatment prior to it being disposed into the Santa Monica Bay. Richard stated that Phase 2 deals with the treatment of some of the water wherein it is treated with bleach and used to water parkland rather than the water being wasted. Patrick responded that the City of LA can legally collect storm water from Temescal Canyon Park itself not from private property surrounding the park. Jack Allen stated that the City can legally collect water from storm water from storm drains when that water comes from private property. Richard noted that the council previously stated the Proposition O project to reuse water for public parks. Why should the council interfere with Phase 2 of that effort? The City has to trap the water before it contaminates the Santa Monica Bay so the question is should that water be wasted or treated and reused to water the grass? Chris Spitz pointed out that these concerns are directed towards Phase 1 and not Phase 2; Patrick feels that public health and safety is being sacrificed (fire and terrorist risk v. undeterminable benefits). Patrick is objecting to the treated water being dumped into the Coastal Inceptor that is broken in numerous places before it gets to the Hyperion Treatment plant. Gil Dembo agreed with Richard’s comments, i.e., that the Proposition O project is a good project; it has been researched and the re-use of water for parkland is a worthy cause.
Action: Barbara asked if there was a board member willing to sponsor his motion and second the motion such that the council would vote on the language therein. No motion was proffered.
9.2. Bylaws Committee – George Wolfberg, Chair.
See Bylaws Committee Report with documents circulated before the January 23, 2014 meeting; the documents are also available on the PPCC website. Second reading of the revised bylaws. Discussion and voting to take place March 13, 2014.
9.3. Discussion of Policy and Process Relating to Distribution of Information from PPCC’s Member Organizations and Seated Board Members.
Barbara solicited input from organizations regarding the obligation of the Council and/or Chair to distribute information via emails, flyers or otherwise. In the past, organizational members have made their announcements while physically present at PPCC Board meetings. Discussion: (1) Gil Dembo stated ‘once is enough’. (2) Richard Cohen stated that organizations should be able to send the Chair announcements for the agenda that are then redistributed in the minutes (totaling 4 times including draft and final circulation). Richard does not think PPCC’s valuable email list should be used to distribute information regarding outside events and those events that PPCC does not sponsor. Too many emails from PPCC will endanger the organization because people will become overwhelmed and our email list becomes devalued. (3) Jack Allen agreed with Richard. (4) Janet Turner disagreed and felt that member organization announcements should be generously accommodated. Janet stressed that member organizations have the obligation to reciprocate and send out PPCC emails to their members as well. (5) Jim Rea suggested that there be a list of recognized events that PPCC agree to announce. (6) Donna Vaccarino said that a council that represents the community should freely distribute information from member organizations when requested. (7) Jennifer Malaret stated that the topic is whether member organizations are happy to leave this issue to the discretion of the Chair per the Bylaws, whether member organizations want a committee or policy and/or whether member organizations have guidelines they want adopted by the council. (8) Quentin Fleming supported leaving this matter to the discretion of the Chair. (9) Jack Allen supported Richard and reiterated that the PPCC should not be involved in distributing information that is not Council business nor should PPCC try to be a substitute for the Palisadian Post. (10) Amy Kalp suggested that the Council consider how it is structured to increase outreach to the community. (11) Carol Bruch suggested that a good solution would be for PPCC to have a community outreach bulletin board on the PPCC website and that nothing be distributed by the Chair at all. (12) Paul Glasgall [no further statement recorded]. Action: Richard suggested that the issue of notices be left to the discretion of the Chair with a bit of reservation and that any notice sent out be sent out once [no further action recorded].
10. New Business – None.
11. General Public Comment.
11.1. Brian Deming suggested that Facebook be used for general discussion and that PPCC’s email be reserved for official organizational notices.
11.2. Stuart Muller said that the owner of the Spectrum building came to the Design Review Board with plans for new signage, highlights and exterior planting.
11.3. Stuart Muller suggested that the Council use its funds to hire a paid, professional Secretary for minute taking and administration of the organization.
11.4. Donna Vaccarino announced that the UCLA student’s work for CPIPP would be presented on March 16, 2014. There will be three plans presented as options for the community. Sunday 10:30 – 1 PM at the empty U.S. Bank Building.
11.5. Andrew Wolfberg announced that George and Diane Wolfberg celebrated their 50th Wedding Anniversary. Richard Cohen and various board members congratulated the Wolfberg family on this most special day.
12. Adjournment. Barbara Kohn adjourned the meeting at 8:50 PM.
ITEM 7.1.1 – PPCC SPARKPLUG AWARD CRITERIA
AWARD DEFINITION: The Golden Sparkplug Award honors those citizens who ignite ideas and projects into community action that affects all of us.
ITEM 7.1.6 – COUNCIL DISTRICT 11 IS SEEKING QUALIFIED APPLICANTS TO FILL POSITIONS ON THE PACIFIC PALISADES COMMERCIAL VILLAGE AND NEIGHBORHOODS DESIGN REVIEW BOARD (DRB).
The DRB plays an important role in implementing the design goals of the Pacific Palisades
The DRB consists of seven members, including at least one member who is qualified in the
Applicants should have:
*_knowledge of, or interest in, architecture, urban design, and the development process;
* the ability to evaluate projects based on design guidelines;
_ *the ability to listen and communicate effectively at public meetings; and
_*a passion for, and vision of, design in the Pacific Palisades community.
DRB members must live or work within zip code areas 90272 and 90402
DRB members will be appointed by Councilmember Mike Bonin.
If you are interested in serving on the DRB, please submit an application consisting of a resume and a cover letter detailing your interest in and qualifications for the position.
Applications should be submitted by email to Tricia Keane,
Please use “Palisades DRB Application” as the email subject line.
ITEM 8.1.1 – LETTER RE: 15225 DE PAUW, PACIFIC PALISADES, CA 90272
ITEM 9.1 — FEBRUARY 27, 2014 PPCC BOARD TCPBMP MOTION DOCUMENTATION
RECOMMENDED MOTION SUBMITTED BY PATRICK HART ASKING PPCC TO OPPOSE ISSUANCE AT THIS TIME OF A COASTAL COMMISSION PERMIT FOR THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES, BUREAU OF ENGINEERING, TO BUILD PHASE II OF THE TEMESCAL CANYON PARK BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES PROJECT. [MOTION NOT PROFFERED]
1. WHEREAS PPCC is concerned with Public Safety and Health issues should the TCPBMP
Background information in support of Motion Item 9.1.1 c) Onsite gathering of storm water, 9.1.1 b) Hillside fires and 9.1.1 e) Safe handling of Sodium Hypochlorite
Note: The January 2013 document found on this website covers the safe handling of Sodium Hypochlorite in Public Pools. Since the vast majority of Los Angeles-run public pools are enclosed, this is the closest document that would appear to be applicable to the TCPBMP project. Therefore, other than this document the BOE would appear to have no way to justify any approved protocols for the safe handling of this chemical in an unguarded, unmonitored environment such as Temescal Canyon Park as this project environment is inconsistent with the laws applied to Los Angeles’ two dozen plus public pools.
Background information in support of Motion items 9.1.1 a) Earthquake risk, 9.1.1 d) Odors, and 9.1.2. Inadequate, qualitative and quantitative pre-facility and post-facility storm water measurement techniques
Lastly, Background information in support of Motion Item 9.1.3.; operational funding of the TCPBMP
In closing, it is my hope you voting members of the PPCC while have adequate time to review this email before our February 27, 2014 meeting. I will answer via email any questions you may have beforehand, or at the meeting proper. Thank you for reading!
U.S. ANNOUNCES $2 BILLION SEWAGE SPILL AGREEMENT FOR CITY OF LOS ANGELES
Motion concerns are in italics, followed (in bold) by City of Los Angeles responses.
1. Earthquake Risk?
Patrick Hart responds: See my response to Point 6. below. It is the cracked-and-ruptured-in-several-places Coastal Interceptor Sewer which directly connects to the output pipelines of the TCPBMP project. The fact that the project is not technically within the 1991 Alquist-Priolo Earthquake Fault Zone guidelines is irrelevant to the fact that the project’s output pipelines risk being cracked and/or ruptured the same as the Coastal Interceptor Sewer into which they feed in any earth tremor >3.5 Richter, per Garcetti-appointed earthquake czar, Dr. Lucy Jones speaking at Northridge20, January 2014.
2. Hillside Fires?
City Response: There are no ignitable above-grade structures associated
Patrick Hart’s response: We are talking here about hillside fires caused by the Phase II adjacent, ongoing, homeless camp fires under eucalyptus trees during the on-site transportation, and transfer of sodium hypochlorite (SH), or for instance, if the electrical power running the storage bunker’s ventilation system fails causing fumes inside the Phase II facility to escape such that the SH oxygenates the air around the homeless fires, exacerbating the possibility of a hillside fire. Phase II therefore will increase hillside fire risk.
3. The On-Site Gathering of Stormwater
City Response: Stormwater collection for re-use is a sustainable,
Patrick Hart’s response: As discussed in the details of Item 9.1.1 c) The On-site (meaning Temescal Canyon Park proper) gathering of storm water is legal. Item 9.1.1 c) should be changed to reflect the off-site gathering of storm water that will take place in the sixteen hundred acres of homes and streets surrounding Temescal Canyon Park which is illegal because the issue of ownership of rain water falling on private property remains un-adjudicated.
4. Future Exhaust Fumes
Patrick Hart’s response: The City is speaking here of pumping the SH from the Phase II storage bunker into the 1.25 million gallon underground Phase I holding tank, a transfer process. They do not address the two exhaust fumes issues; the exhaust fumes which will be emitted from both the 4′ x 6′ Phase I surface level vent which will be constant 24/7/365, or as described above, for Hillside Fires from Phase II.
5. Handling of Sodium Hypochlorite (as required by post January 2013 California
Patrick Hart’s response: If no such laws or regulations exist, as the BOE claims, for the safe handling of SH in the TCPBMP project environment (what about spills?) how can the BOE claim that they are “complying with the Los Angeles Department of Public Health guidelines”.
6. Public Health Metrics to Measure Before & After Gains?
Patrick Hart’s response: “The Project used storm water pollution models to
7. How Will Operation of TCPBMP Be Fully Funded by Prop O?